Author Topic: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2  (Read 13030 times)

Coquille

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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2011, 06:33:23 pm »
UNIVIVE-022 RIVISTA REMASTER 20TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION 5-CD

Of course the accumulatory anticipation, sometime apprehensive, which attends a slated release from Univive Oriental Masters approaches some sort of methuselahian epoch having since passed when it was first announced.

This remaster limited to 200 copies enables for a tenth of the price for a collector to get an official:
'67-'69 Studio Et Live [SIXE-0101]
Mizutani / Les Rallizes Dénudés [SIXE-0203]
'77 Live [SIXE-0400]
plus a leaflet and as bonus disc of an early demo.

http://blog.jgarage.com/2011/03/post_175.htmlhttp://www.psfmm.com/product/12325 .

These were originally released in August 1991.  The Cable Hogue video came a year later (UV-03 perhaps ?)

The interim Phoenix Records has risen from the ashes Univive:
4CD-R Great White Wonder as a 4CD set and 5LP set;
2CD Cable Hogue Soundtrack as a 2CD and 2LP set.
As well... Blind Baby Has It's Mothers Eyes CD in CD and LP
and Heavier Than A Death In The Family CD as CD and 2LP.

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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2011, 12:03:28 am »
Would anyone be up to/able to compile a list of Rallizes recordings that would be needed to have a 'complete' collection?
I know there is a lot of overlap...

And Coquille, thanks for your efforts in making the picture a little clearer!


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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2011, 11:35:29 pm »
.... list of Rallizes recordings that would be needed to have a 'complete' collection?
I know there is a lot of overlap...
In addition to this thread....  http://noise.as/forum/index.php/topic,78.0.html  "Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise".
Detailed (to the point of confusion) dissection of Univive... other threads in the forum under "Music" covered Ignuitas
and Dead Flower labels.
The 10 x cdr box sets (released originally by Nanjo Asahito (La Musica label) fifteen years ago) have mostly edited
selections of material from 1967-1988 and complete recordings from 1993-1997 (excluding: Baus Theater 1993; Harajuku Gallery 1995 w/Shizuka; Mushroom 1994 w/Niplets).   eg. http://www.discogs.com/label/Illegal-Alien+Records
Some of the complete unedited concerts (like those sourced for the CDs and DVDs that have come out since 2005) are
from the collections of tape traders, some of which they have made available for download (the five coloured Cragale CDrs have been likewise obtainable).
It's spaghetti...
(below is some lost posts, mojibake infused)
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2011, 11:43:18 pm »
January 22, 2008Here's a list since there's been some request for an updated discography.
Some of this material �appeared� before like in Nanjo�s LaMusica 10-CDR
items and reissued by Illegal Alien, etc.
Now, for the most part they have been  presented by Univive and Ignuitas sans edits.
That is,  with the �cryptic interjections� of tuning and other live ambiences�
Univive has nice artwork; Ignuitas has stuff so awful one can�t help but think it is
intentional , perhaps endorsing the supposed ambivalence of the initial authors�
Furthermore, Ignuitas (even misspelled on their own releases,  not to mention
(the oversight?) of two different titles with the same cat#) releases the same
or  improved-in-one-way but worse-in-another material as Univive.
However, the recent Univive titles seem to cannibalize themselves.
Also, included are some short notes about bonus discs, etc�.
and hopefully not a whole lotta ???? (mojibake)
??????? / Univive (~ Oriental Master)  (ltd.300)
2004                UNIVIVE-001           Mars Studio 1980                          3CDR
2005                UNIVIVE-002           Laid Down 76                              �3CDR+1CDR�
(the Univive �best-seller�!)
2005                UNIVIVE-003           Double Heads                              4CDR
2005                UNIVIVE-004           Black Rainbow                              2CDR 
[2005               UNIVIVE-003/4         Double Heads Limited                 6CDR +wraparound] 
(it is the same as the two previous, just with individually stamped # (usually smudged)
on the additional slipcase)
2006                UNIVIVE-005           Laid Down 76 Again                       1CDR
2006                UNIVIVE-006           One More Night Tripper                  4CDR(+1CDR   ltd.150)
(the bonus �Mizutani 2� almost the same as DISC 2 of CDAR 21/22;  cf. UNIVIVE-015)
2006                UNIVIVE-007           Great White Wonder                        3CDR(+1CDR  ltd.150)
(the bonus 1980/11/07 is unedited version of what 10-CDR 1980 boxes version)
2006                UNIVIVE-008           Cradle Saloon 78                            4CDR
(two sources:same concert� apparently there was another performance of improvisation that same day
   but it is not included here. qv. ref:.D1-2-05; D3-1-02; D3-1-10)
2006                UV-01 / DV-02             Metal Machine Music                           DVD
2006                UV-02 / DV-01             Final Era                                              DVD
(this is multigenerational visual, but it has two extra minutes of footage showing audience;
   DVAR-55 is a higher quality visual sans the extra footage, otherwise same)
2006                UNIVIVE-009           Wild Trips                                         5CD
(DISC 5 identical to the Ignuitas��Kinjougakuen� just different index, ithink!)
2006                UNIVIVE-010           Naked Dizaster                            3CD + catalogue summary
(this is not a bad introductory compilation with some variety of�70s and �80s with an undersized insert wch
   implores�get�em all�of the chronologically tabled Univive titles �)
2006                UNIVIVE-011(promo)    Double Heads September                    1CD
(just came with tray card in jewel case for purchases of 4 or more Univive titles;
disc (only) also available as bonus of �Mars Studio Remaster�)
2006                UNIVIVE-001           Mars Studio Remaster                      3CD(+1CD   ltd.150) +insert
(also on Loewe Disk(?!) read: �ignuitas�)
2006                UNIVIVE-012           End of Heavy Groove                       2CD
2007                UNIVIVE-013           Neu Products Era                              4CD
(undated live, but has photo used for Waseda Uni.�87 flyer� the studio is truncated: some of it was previously on
   Illegal Alien�s �Studio�86�2-CD compilation, unedited)
2007                UNIVIVE-014           Double Heads Standard                     6CD
( it is UNIVIVE-003/4  reissue but now with different layout, ie. relevant photographic artwork)       
[2007               UNIVIVE-002           Laid Down 76 - 2nd Ed.                    3CDR(+1CDR   ltd.100) ]
(same as 2005 version EXCEPT DISC 4 �a different sauce� is now �� another �sauce��� another track shorter(?))
2007                UNIVIVE-015           Mizutani 2 �                                         3CD
(more sauces!��   1.Mizutani2 reissue+otherstuff; 2.�76Demo(UNIVIVE-002 selection)+other stuff;
      3.1980�December�s BlackChildren� (UNIVIVE-006) condensed�� all remastered (�remastered�)   
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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2011, 11:45:31 pm »
February 15, 2008
other....

V./A.
�OZ DAYS LIVE� / OZ-1 2CD)


Rock Pictorial :Special Edition: Hadaka No Rallizes  �No25�
With unpublished photos and vignettes of Rallizes discography
incl. Univive and Ignuitas CDs. to Sept.2006.



UNIVIVE (cont.)
2007
                UNIVIVE-016           Cable Hogue Soundtrack                    2CD   ltd.250
(some of these tracks previously on Univive� but a minute longer or shorter, etc. this is not regarded
   as one of the better titles. If you just want a couple of CDs it may be worth considering
   as a �sampler� . Extended versions of tracks (usu. non-synchronised to footage(?)) in the original VHS. 
nb. �Fantastique� [ UNIVIVE-002 ] and  �Assassin�(1986,Rock May-Kan)[ UNIVIVE-010] ).
Also contains 4 excerpts fm 'Live in Kanazawa' (77?8?13-14                  4             ). 

Postponed for some months since 2007 was:
                UNIVIVE-017           Volcanic Performance                      4CD(+1CD bonus)...released April 2008.
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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2011, 10:33:38 am »
Thanks for this!  Is it wrong to want it all?

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Re: Univive Second Life! Denudes' cash-in-quick enterprise Pt. 2
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 03:20:12 am »
I don't think it is wrong, but is sure does mean you're in for an expensive trip!

FYI, Univive is releasing a 14-CD box set of previous materials, including:
- Double Heads September
- Great White Wonder
- One More Night Tripper
- Mars Studio 1980
- Mars Studio

 ;)
http://www.psfmm.com/product/11372